چرا اينقدر حرف از جنگ مي زنيد؟ جنگ منفورترين و شوم ترين پديده تاريخ بشر است! ويراني، کشتار، آوارگي و بدبختي به دنبال جنگ تا سالها ملتها را اسير خود خواهد کرد. چرا بايد قدم در راهي بگذاريم که به جنگ منتهي شود؟ چرا خود را به شرايطي نزديک کنيم که مي دانيم عاقبتش جز مصيبت و نابودي نيست؟ قطعا ايران لقمه راحتي (مثل عراق و افغانستان) براي آمريکا و متحدانش نيست؛ اما فکرش را بکنيد سرانجام اين درگيري چه خواهد شد و چقدر ويراني بايد به بار بيايد تا اين قائله ختم شود و چه کسي بيشترين آسيب را مي بيند؟!
فرض کنيم شما در حال عبور از يک خيابان هستيد و عده اي اوباش و لات و گردن کلفت براي اخاذي سد راه شما مي شوند و شما با آنها درگير مي شويد؛ يکي آز آنها چاقويي در مي آورد و روي صورت شما زخمي مي زند که از بد حادثه به چشمتان هم آسيب جدي وارد مي شود؛ اوباش متفرق مي شوند و پس از ساعتي چند نفر به داد شما مي رسند و شما را به بيمارستان منتقل مي کنند. نهايتا بتوانيد به پليس شکايت کنيد آنهم از افرادي که نميشناسيد و مدرک کافي هم عليهشان نداريد!
در هر صورت آمريکا حکم آن لات گردن کلفتي را دارد که وقتي قمه را از غلاف خارج کرد بايد زخمي بزند وگرنه هيمنه و حيثيتش بر باد مي رود و قطعا بازنده اين جنگ ملت مظلوم ايران است.
پس بهتر است ماهم راهي ديگر پيدا کنيم تا از محله لاتها و چاقوکشها عبور نکنيم؛ آنهم در شرايطي که ميدانيم نتيجه کار، جز آسيب ديدگي جدي نيست.
بياييد جلوي درگيري نظامي و جنگ را بگيريم... تا دير نشده
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از نظر من که اولا جنگی بین ایران و امریکا اتفاق نمی افته ثانیا اگر هم بیفته به طور مستقیم اتفاق نمی افته درست مثل جنگ 33 روزه حزب الله و اسرائیل که در واقع بین ایران و امریکا بود
ثالثا اگر هم جنگی به صورت مستقیم بین ایران و امریکا اتفاق بیفته از نظر من اگر امریکا تنها باشه برنده جنگ ایرانه ولی اگر بقیه کشورهای پیشرفته بخوان امریکا رو حمایت کنن اونوقت وضع فرق میکنه...
اگر امریکا حتی یک درصد هم احتمال بده که توی جنگ برندست یک ساعت هم دست روی دست نمی ذاره و حمله میکنه...
«اى رهگذر هر كه هستى و از هر كجا كه بيايى مى دانم سرانجام روزى بر اين مكان گذر خواهى كرد. اين منم، كوروش، شاه بزرگ، شاه چهارگوشه جهان، شاه سرزمين ها، برخاك اندكى كه مرا در برگرفته رشك مبر، مرا بگذار و بگذر.»
با سلام
به نظر من رديف 3 و 4 نظرخواهي با هم هستند . يعني يكي از دلابل عدم حمله احتمالي آمريكا به ايران همين كشيده شدن جنگ به بقيه كشورهاست. از طرفي الان آمريكا هم در عراق و هم در افغانستان گرفتار شده و واقعا" نميتونه در سه جبهه بجنگه . افكار عمومي مردم دنيا و آمريكا و همينطور شرايط اقتصادي آمريكا هم چنين اجازه اي را به دولت آمريكا نميدن. به طور كلي اگر ايران بتونه اين جنگ رو (كه هيچوقت اتفاق نمي افته) فرسايشي كنه يعني كاري كنه كه جنگ طولاني بشه و تلفات آمريكائي ها رو بالا ببره قطعا" جنگ رو ميبره. و اين دقيقا" كاري بود كه صدام حسين نتونست اجرا كنه هرچند كه طرحش رو هم ريخته بود. يكي ديگه از عواملي كه واقعا" مانع از شروع جنگ ميشه اينه كه آمريكا جدا" مطمئن نيست كه چه پيش خواهد اومد. يعني جنگي رو كه شروع كرده بتونه خودش تموم كنه و بتونه همه چيز رو كنترل كنه. ممكنه در طول جنگ وقايعي پيش بياد كه جدا" كار از دست آمريكائي ها خارج بشه و حسابي گرفتار شه. ظرفيتهاي ايران چه از لحاظ جمعيت ، وسعت ، توان دفاعي و شرايط جغرافيائي و ... جدا" بالاست. باز هم عرض ميكنم به نظر من اين جنگ هيچوقت اتفاق نمي افته.
محمود سامی نژاد!!
یاد حرف یکی از دوستان افتادم که می گفت مخلوقی احمق تر از انسان وجود ندارد!چراکه 124000 پیامبر مبعوث شدند تا به او حالی کنند که بین انسان ها هیچ تفاوتی نیست ولی امروز هم ...
غیر ممکن است که در نهایت آنچیزی نشویم که مردم فکر می کنند هستیم. ژولیوس سزار
machkol نوشته شده:محمود سامی نژاد!! یاد حرف یکی از دوستان افتادم که می گفت مخلوقی احمق تر از انسان وجود ندارد!چراکه 124000 پیامبر مبعوث شدند تا به او حالی کنند که بین انسان ها هیچ تفاوتی نیست ولی امروز هم ...
dr_mehdi57 نوشته شده:چرا اينقدر حرف از جنگ مي زنيد؟ جنگ منفورترين و شوم ترين پديده تاريخ بشر است! ويراني، کشتار، آوارگي و بدبختي به دنبال جنگ تا سالها ملتها را اسير خود خواهد کرد. چرا بايد قدم در راهي بگذاريم که به جنگ منتهي شود؟ چرا خود را به شرايطي نزديک کنيم که مي دانيم عاقبتش جز مصيبت و نابودي نيست؟ قطعا ايران لقمه راحتي (مثل عراق و افغانستان) براي آمريکا و متحدانش نيست؛ اما فکرش را بکنيد سرانجام اين درگيري چه خواهد شد و چقدر ويراني بايد به بار بيايد تا اين قائله ختم شود و چه کسي بيشترين آسيب را مي بيند؟! فرض کنيم شما در حال عبور از يک خيابان هستيد و عده اي اوباش و لات و گردن کلفت براي اخاذي سد راه شما مي شوند و شما با آنها درگير مي شويد؛ يکي آز آنها چاقويي در مي آورد و روي صورت شما زخمي مي زند که از بد حادثه به چشمتان هم آسيب جدي وارد مي شود؛ اوباش متفرق مي شوند و پس از ساعتي چند نفر به داد شما مي رسند و شما را به بيمارستان منتقل مي کنند. نهايتا بتوانيد به پليس شکايت کنيد آنهم از افرادي که نميشناسيد و مدرک کافي هم عليهشان نداريد! در هر صورت آمريکا حکم آن لات گردن کلفتي را دارد که وقتي قمه را از غلاف خارج کرد بايد زخمي بزند وگرنه هيمنه و حيثيتش بر باد مي رود و قطعا بازنده اين جنگ ملت مظلوم ايران است. پس بهتر است ماهم راهي ديگر پيدا کنيم تا از محله لاتها و چاقوکشها عبور نکنيم؛ آنهم در شرايطي که ميدانيم نتيجه کار، جز آسيب ديدگي جدي نيست. بياييد جلوي درگيري نظامي و جنگ را بگيريم... تا دير نشده
در اينجا اين دوست عزيز از يک منتق تمسيلی استفاده کرده
ما هم سعی ميکنيم با يک مثال جواب شما را بدهيم
اگر ان قربانی شما يک سلاح کمری داشت که با ان يکی از ان لاتها را ميکشت بقيه هم در ميرفتن
در جوامعی که شهروند تماميت ارزی دارد حق همل اصلهه و دفا ع از تماميت ارزی
شخصی خود را نيز دارد مثل امريکا
اين تماميت ارزی سپس به ايالت و کشور گسترش پيدا ميکند
در جهان سوم تماميت ارزی يک مسئله در سته کشوريست
در نتيجه مردم اين کشورها هيچگاه رابته بين قدرت امنيت را درک نميکنن و از نزر فرهنگی
هيچوقت به رابته ديالکتيکی و تکاملی بين قدرت و امنيت پی نميبرند
چون در سطح ملی فاقد اين فرهنگ هستند در سطح فرا ملی هم باج ميدهند
اين مسئله در ايران بخواتر انقلاب و درگيری پشت جبهه تا هدی هل شد البته بسورت موقت
مردم از خودشون با سلاح دفاع کردند
الان با اين نسل جديد مشکل داريم بايد اسلحه را به مردم داد البته با حساب کتاب
دوستان عشق امنيت و تهديد توجه کنن فقط با تييوری پردازی مسئله هل نميشه
احتياج به فرهنگ سازی داره
حالا يه مثالی ميزنيم که کمی خسلت فرهنگی را در نزر بگيره
ببينيم اگر از قربانی شما زن يا دخترش را ميخواستن چه کار بايد ميکرد
ان خت نا موسی برای شما در روابت بين الملل کجاست و چرا بايد کار تا آنجا کشيده بشه
تا عکسعملی نشان بديم.
چرا کره شمالی 20 ميليون دلارش را از امريکا پس گرفت ولی ايران هنوز نتونسته از امريکا فرانسه آلمان
2 دوست عزيز TOPGUN و machkol اين سايت مكان علمي و قرار نيست با اين نوع طرز صحبت ارزش و اعتبار اين انجمن پايين بياد نتيجه ي اين نوع حرف ها قفل شدن تايپيك خواهد بود لطفا احترام رو حفظ كنيد چون در صورت قفل شدن حقوق ساير اعظا تضييع خواهد شد از شما انتظار بيشتري ميره
Martin: Let’s back-up now, let’s go back. What’s the Council of Trent?
Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the Protestant Reformation. Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought us all of the political liberty that we know of today. There’s no such thing as national sovereignty without the Reformation. There’s no such thing as private rights without the Reformation. There’s no such thing as the Law of Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the others, without the Reformation.
So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by grace through faith alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood to go to Heaven—that all we need is salvation in Christ, and Romans 1:17: the righteous shall live by faith. When the Reformation came, it completely stripped Rome of its spiritual power. The priests were no longer wanted because the people were getting the word of God in a Bible, specifically in Holland, England, and Germany. And so, with these great revivals breaking forth and the Reformation happening, nations were breaking away from the power of the Pope. The Holy Roman Empire was breaking up. Charles V, the Emperor, resigned and became a monk and a gardener. So, the Lord was moving mightily in breaking the power of the Holy Roman Empire, started by Charlemagne and the Pope.
Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of money. The nations were not paying "Peter’s pence" anymore, which today we call "foreign aid" in this country. And so the Pope was very upset about his.
What’s he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us; they’re not under our temporal or spiritual power; and it’s very important to remember that the Pope claims two powers—spiritual and temporal—and with the breaking of his spiritual power, he then lost his temporal power. In other words, he no longer had the ability to rule the people through the king of the country, because the king was breaking away, like Henry VIII.
So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church of England; he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in England, in Germany, in Holland, and other places.
As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his demonisms, his "spiritual exercises" and—because Loyola had been a member of the Spanish Alumbrados, which is what we call the Illuminati today, and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to regain back what had been taken by the Reformation—what the Lord had done through Luther, Calvin, and Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none of those men died violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died peacefully, amidst the power of the Jesuit machinations.
The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse and condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who does not believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy communion bread], and that his literal blood is in the wine. That’s called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not believe that is an accursed anathema. Anybody who believes that their salvation is outside the Catholic Church is accursed anathema. Anybody who believes in justification by grace through faith—anathema, accursed. Anybody who believes that the Pope is not the vicar of Christ—accursed, anathema. You see, all of these doctrines were being put forth as a result of reading the Bible, which produced the Reformation, and so the Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers were preaching. This is all in Law called the Council of Trent.
In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the Jesuits condemn freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of conscience. So, no man has the right to choose his own religion; no man has the right to publish what he feels is the truth; and no man has the right to freedom of conscience.
Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the First Amendment. The man who wrote the First Amendment was James Madison, who was a Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland: "If you don’t secure all those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia was a Baptist/Calvinist state.
So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the doctrines of the Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his Institutes Of The Christian Religion. Calvin [1536] wrote the Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it when he was 27, and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the Jesuits so hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva to the day of his death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It’s Calvin and his Institutes Of The Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his Council of Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two major documents.
Martin: Council of Trent was what year?
Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little town in Italy. So, it was a Council that took place in the town of Trent, Italy.
The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was finished in 1648, after the 30 Years War, is another extension of Calvin’s Institutes, and is what the Church of Scotland and the Covenanters went by when they resisted the powers of Rome and England. That document is a major document, and it’s not the new Westminster Confession, it’s the old one of 1648, where they called the Pope the man of sin, that Roman Anti-Christ, and they also denounced anti-Christian tyranny.
And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of the spirit", which is the Word of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter 6, and "the sword of just defense"—the gun, the sword.
So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time for war, and we do not refuse to go to the battlefield when it’s necessary. It was the Calvinists who gave us our political liberty in England with Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent Baptist. It was Calvinists in Holland who gave the Dutch their political liberty, with William of Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice, and then later, in our great country, when it was Washington, the Freemason who did not go into that Masonic Lodge that last 30 years of his life—in his own words—who was a Baptist and a Calvinist. He was baptized in the First Baptist Church of New York by one of his captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by Calvinists.
That’s why they didn’t surrender at Valley Forge; that’s why, when they were naked, when they went through the snow, barefoot, they endured that because they were Bible-believing Calvinists and they refused to submit to the tyranny of King George, who was controlled by the Jesuits.
And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we’ve lost everything. And those very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment, secured their right to bear arms, because they secured the right, the "sword of just defense". And the "sword of the spirit" is contained in the First Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken from them. The two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and Second Amendments. Without those first two Amendments, all the others are nothing.
Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let’s go to #3 of the seventy. (laughter)
How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman’s signing into law of the Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda?
Martin: Let’s go back to St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York. Why is that so significant? You talk about the American Pope. Again, that person is?
Phelps: Cardinal O’Connor.
Martin: Now, what is his role in the United States?
Phelps: Ok, remember first that this title "American Pope" was gotten from Conney’s work. John Conney wrote The American Pope, I believe in 1988, so a lot of this information is from that document.
The American Pope is the Cardinal of New York. He is the most powerful Cardinal in the United States. He is what’s called "the military vicar".
The military vicar is in command of all of the military orders within the United States, they being the Knights of Malta and the Knights of Columbus. He is also in command, and privately, of "the Commission" because Cardinal Spellman was an intimate of Joe Kennedy, and Joe Kennedy was an intimate of Frank Costello.
We also see that it was Cardinal Spellman who enabled "Lucky" Luciano to be released from the prison in New York, to return to Italy in 1946. And this was because of the Luciano Project that I mentioned in my book. But Lucky Luciano, his Mafia on the East Coast, worked in conjunction with the U.S. Navy, supposedly to protect the Eastern seaboard from German U-boat attack.
So, as payback? Cardinal Spellman releases Lucky Luciano—that filthy, wicked, evil, heartless spiritual bastard, who compelled young girls into prostitution, probably one of the cruelest things any man could do. He is released and sent back to Rome.
When the Kennedy assassination comes up, the Cardinal needs a favor. After all, he’s released Luciano. So now the Mafia gets to participate: Jack Ruby, Carlos Marcello, Santos Trafficante, all the High Dons participate. Why? Because that Cardinal in New York controls the Commission.
And that Commission, you know what it controls? All of the trucking, all the supermarkets, it’s power is beyond our wildest imagination, second only to the Knights of Malta. And, of course, they all control the Federal Reserve Bank.
The Cardinal controls the Federal Reserve Bank through the Council on Foreign Relations. The Council on Foreign Relations belongs to the Cardinal. Spellman was not a member of it, during his day, but two of the most powerful members were Knights of Malta: Henry Luce and J. Peter Grace, and also William F. Buckley, to this day. William F. Buckley is indeed one of my enemies, because I name him, and he is a powerful multi-billionaire who participated in the Kennedy assassination, just like Iacocca, another Knight. Both of those men are subject to Cardinal O’Connor and will do ANYTHING he says.
Martin: Do you know who is head of the Knights of Malta, now?
چون در صورت قفل شدن حقوق ساير اعظا تضييع خواهد شد از شما انتظار بيشتري ميره 
